bitumen sheet?

Discussion in 'Subfloor Preparation' started by merit, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Looking at a floor that needs some levelling and it has black plastic tiles down in one room and what looks like lino covered in bitumen in the lounge. Does any1 know what this is or come across it before?
     
  2. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    thermo plastic tiles? not sure on the lino look section?

    Any pictures?
     
  3. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I guess the black tiles are thermo plastic, house was built 1930s. I didnt take any pictures of the sheet, have to remember that for next time.
     
  4. doidgey

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    make sure the tiles have no asbestos in them!

    Steve
     
  5. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Yep, should be tested by a pro to see if there dangerous.
     
  6. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I have already mentioned that to them, I have used a company before that will test it but they charge around £120 quid to do it. If I float engineered over them could I latex over the thermo tiles? I have done in the past and its been ok. Im more concerned about the sheet stuff
     
  7. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    problem is with screeding over thermos is they are normally fitted on bitumen. The bitumen can move around with different temperatures and cause them to blow at a later date.

    Also they can blow in the first few days as the screed dries and curls them up.
     
  8. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    I have had a screed crack over these tiles once, I put it down to the subfloor being too cold and maybe damp but I wasnt sure. Ive latexed over them on jobs where the tiles have had asbestos in them but never been sure if this was a right.
     
  9. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    As far as i understand, you can cover it up providing you dont damage them.

    However im no pro on this so dont really know. You all need to speak to someone in the know before you mess with them.

    Have a read here-

    What is asbestos?

    Asbestos is a naturally occurring mineral that has been used in a range of building materials to make them more rigid and fire resistant. It has also been used in household products such as ironing boards and oven gloves.

    Asbestos was used extensively as a building material in Great Britain from the 1950s through to the mid 1980s.

    Some areas in your home where you may find asbestos include:

    eaves, gutters and rainwater fall pipes
    fire blankets
    garage and shed roofs
    linings for walls, ceilings and doors
    insulation panels in some storage heaters
    bath panels
    central heating flues
    loose asbestos packing between floors and in partition walls
    floor tiles

    Most people are exposed to low amounts of asbestos present in the atmosphere with no ill effects. Asbestos fibres and dust are potentially very dangerous if inhaled in higher concentrations over a period of time, when they can cause serious lung diseases including cancer. The symptoms of these diseases often do not appear for between 20 and 30 years after exposure to asbestos.
    What to do if you think you have asbestos in your home

    It is very hard to identify asbestos, but if you suspect that you are living with asbestos:

    don't panic unless asbestos is damaged or disturbed, it is safe to leave it in place
    never sand, drill or saw asbestos materials
    always seek professional advice before thinking of removing asbestos materials
    do not attempt to remove asbestos lagging, spray coatings or insulation board by yourself - these materials can only be safely removed by a contractor, licensed by the Health and Safety Executive
    sometimes it will be necessary to take a sample, for example to identify the type of asbestos - you should only employ a suitably trained person to sample or do a survey of the premises

    Removing asbestos from your home

    If you do choose to remove the non-licensable asbestos materials yourself, you should take the following precautions:

    wear a dust mask approved for asbestos
    wear a disposable overall
    keep other people away from the working area
    wet the material well with water containing a little washing up liquid; check that there is no potential for contact with electricity first
    always remove whole sheets or components; do not break them up
    place any loose or small items in strong plastic labelled bags and seal
    clean up all dust with a damp cloth and then seal it in a plastic bag whilst damp
    do not use a domestic vacuum cleaner as dust may pass through the filter

    If you have removed asbestos from your home yourself, it will need to be disposed of separately from your normal household waste. You may be able to arrange to have it collected or there may be special facilities in your area you can use to dispose of hazardous waste. You can contact your local council for further details.

    The following link will let you enter details of where you live and then take you to your local authority website where you can find out more about removing asbestos.
     
  10. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Been back to this job as they now want the kitchen done in a new vinyl. Same tiles underneath and the vinyl has been stuck to them. Floors all over the place so I've uplifted a piece of the old vinyl tile and had it tested for asbestos. Had the certificate back and both the tile and bitumen adhesive has asbestos in. I didn't realise that bitumen can have asbestos in! Don't think I will be trying to remove any of it in the future without a certificate.
     
  11. gabe

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    Good idea.
     

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