Pile direction or pattern

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  1. simmo

    simmo Well-Known Member

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    Right or wrong ?
     
  2. tone

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    Have you got one of the flights of stairs running the opposite direction so it lines up?
     
  3. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Wrong ! to the book anyway.

    I have had this argument a few times. Visually its correct but for wear its wrong. Getting the pattern to match is going to promote wear. However if you get the pile correct then the pattern is wrong !


    What i normally do is join the carpet at the centre with the pile going different directions so that i end up with match on pattern with stairs and the pile going the correct way for the stairs. However there is only certain carpets you can do this with. The other way is to do diagonal joins so it flows around. Again this depends on carpet as some will fall to bits.

    Ideally the manufacturers need to design there pattern so it lines up both directions. This is where i think all designers should attend our courses so they can see what teh floor-layer is up against when they come up with a non symmetrical design.


    Be a interesting debate this one.
     
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  4. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    If it means the pile runs the wrong way I've always went with the pattern !

    Try explaining to your customer why a pattern isn't matching due to how the carpet is made & how it will wear ?

    Discussing it with your customer is always an option but I always found people will go with the visual & if its my house so would I !

    Saying that though I've never put stairs on the wrong way round !
     
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  5. merit

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    You have to lay a stripe like that or it would look terrible. We done one over four floors and it looked great, we wouldn't of got paid if they were all turned the right way!!
    If it was a twist with a pattern I would always turn it so the pile was going the right way.
    Its like when some customers don't want to turn the half landings!
     
  6. Jasper

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    This is an interesting one , if IM selling the carpet I go through all this with the customer first
    But when a shop im working for send there estimators round they never do, so its then left to me to explain it to the customer on the day of fitting
     
  7. Nk1

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    I think this is one where you have to forget about the pile direction and make it visually correct. A carpet with a line must look right or the customer will pull you on it, they wont pull you on the pile direction. @matt. Yes I do normally stairs and landings the correct pile direction but in this case I wouldn't due to the lines but how much faster will it actually wear being the wrong way?
     
  8. steve

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    I always go with pile direction, if the customer comes back in 6 months and says the carpets wearing out what then? the manufactures won't replace if the piles the wrong way round. Always explain to the customer and never had an issue, always try to talk them out of stripes though;),
     
  9. Distinctive Adam

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    I used to tell customers to have it done right, the stripes should run with the pile direction, in turn you follow the stripes out the house!!
     
  10. Matt

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    Every carpet is different. Im lead to believe that it will at least half the life of the carpet.

    Maybe in a few years time we will know more when the one flight wears out and the other is still ok .
     
  11. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Exactly , a report will have you replacing it.

    Here is one to think about......... what if we was to change the pile direction to the correct way. So basically reversing the pile of the carpet so its now the correct way?

    Just to be clear, we actually reset the pile direction .
     
  12. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    With steam ?
     
  13. Nk1

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    Interesting. Can you test that on floorskills stairs? Lol
     
  14. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    yes, but obviously not as simple as steaming the carpet. you need a special tool that sets the pile while you steam it.

    Used it loads on repairing carpets where someone has changed pile direction with heat seamer or pile reversal on new carpets. Not sure what the lasting effects would be like on a stair carpet.
     
  15. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    sounds like a plan.
     
  16. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I've seen that a fare bit on new carpets !

    Is the tool sort of a steam rake ?
     
  17. Matt

    Matt Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    Sort of. Dont know how to describe it. Give it a go tho.

    Imagine having a widescreen ice remover. The ones with the rubber bit also that dont work. Well its like that but all metal and the steam comes out all the way along the rubber (metal on this) area. The steam loosens the pile and the metal bit sets direction.
     
  18. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah I was think it would be along those lines !

    No I probably will never give it a go lol
     
  19. maf

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    Most of the early striped carpets were loop pile which were harder to tell pile direction so wasn't such a concern but later ones are normally twists. Ones with a bold one colour stripe such as Brockways Jubilee can be lined up with correct pile direction without looking too odd as long as explained to client beforehand!
     
  20. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Don't forget Funky Stripes lol
     

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