Bad standards?

Discussion in 'Vinyl / Impervious floor coverings' started by Mickey, Dec 20, 2014.

  1. Mickey

    Mickey Active Member

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    Hi lads basically just asking your opinions, I turned up today to a 5x4 cellar in a lifestyle range vinyl and the floor was terrible absolute write off and the customer was adamant they wanted it fitting I offered screed at nearly cost but they wernt having it and best of it he didn't want any spray and had to slightly kink it so I could get it in cellar, my question is would you have agreed to fit it? The shop i was subbing to is close friends however was shut when I arrived at customers and owners phone turned off!
     
  2. bournemouth

    bournemouth Super Moderator

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    Refuse to fit it mate your the expert there at the time of fitting not the shop or customer if anything goes wrong or complaint about it looking bad it's your name as the fitter that should know best against the job
     
  3. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    What do you mean spray ?
     
  4. DM Flooring

    DM Flooring Well-Known Member

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    You can only do what the customer asks(within reason). And all you can do is tell the shop what you suggested but the customer declined. Ideally it would of been screeded which would of been my suggestion too.
     
  5. Mickey

    Mickey Active Member

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    Sorry vinyl spray adhesive and again I no it should be fully stuck
     
  6. Mickey

    Mickey Active Member

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    I'm ashamed to say I fitted it, however asked the customer to sign job sheet confirming he agreed, I felt like getting on my horse and riding off with a lasoo :(
     
  7. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Never use the stuff
     
  8. pf flooring

    pf flooring Well-Known Member

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    Think it makes a difference when you are subbing to a shop as they are supposed to be professionals too, so if the shop tells you to get it on the floor even after you say it needs this it needs that then as far as im concerned if anything goes wrong its on them, id get all that in an email though.

    Although saying that bottom line if it aint right dont do it.
     
  9. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I wouldn't do it but mainly do my own work
    End of the day the shop is the specifer your just supplying labour but also I wouldn't sleep if I did
     
  10. DM Flooring

    DM Flooring Well-Known Member

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    Its not always possible to do that when you solely work for a shop. In the past when I worked for a shop I'd bring to notice things needed doing before fitting but in a lot of cases I was just told to get it down and they'd deal with the problem later if it arises. Hated working for that shop but it was all I had at the time to fetch money in.
     
  11. Mickey

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    I'm not keen and wouldn't use on my own jobs but get a case of each spray on the van for shop work, they don't like to pay for proper adhesive!
     
  12. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'd use tackifier or f46 on a sheet vinyl that size
     
  13. Mickey

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    F46 all the way normally but for a 35 pound fit it's just not worth it I've tried explaining to shop but there only a little domestic shop and it's hard as their friends
     
  14. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    £35 ? Is that size in foot or metres ?
     
  15. Mickey

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    Bit off topic but does anyone 'loose lay' as I heard an old fitter say he's never used glue on domestic vinyls, I'm only young and that might be the way it used to be done, but it sounds mental to me
     
  16. Mickey

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    I no mate it's a joke subbing but like I said their friends and needed a lift as they said this has been their busiest week all year ( obv )
     
  17. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Nothing wrong with loose laying cushion vinyl unless it's a large area then it's best stuck but it's actually a loose lay product really
     
  18. pf flooring

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    As spacey says nothing wrong with loose laying a domestic vinyl, if you read tech sheets for each product each manufacturer will state how they product is to be fitted, generally anything over 10m2 should be stuck full bond.
     
  19. sidney

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    Loose lay is fine in theory but very difficult in practice, especially if the skirting flexes slightly, pushing the vinyl back after you've cut it, making the vinyl bubble up after the cut. Ideally you need to stick it all over or at least tape the perimeter in smaller areas.
    I'm sure there's a British Standard that will contradict me, but experience shows me otherwise.
     
    Last edited: Dec 21, 2014
  20. dannyboy

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    I always full stick my vinyl's.
    Even in small bathroom's !
    So much easier to fit that way.
     

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