cushion floor expanding!

Discussion in 'Vinyl / Impervious floor coverings' started by debaser, Jul 21, 2014.

  1. debaser

    debaser Active Member

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    Had a couple of issues lately with vinyls (cushion floor) expanding in new builds. I used to full stick to ply with ps to avoid this but after getting a bubble in the middle of a bathroom that couldn't be rectified I went back to perimeter fixing on two sides, as per forbo's guidelines for small areas. The issue I have is not how to rectify as it generally only takes a little trim but if there's any way to avoid them expanding in the first place, I'm assuming that heat and an unaclimatised product is the cause but when I suggested that to the office they said "if it was caused by heat every vinyl we'd fitted in the last month would be getting snagged at the moment". If im working in the same area as the job I have no problem popping in but when I have to drive 20 miles each way to trim a bathroom that was only worth £15 to me in the first place it kinda grates!:twisted:
     
  2. hobbit

    hobbit Well-Known Member

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    Firstly for £15 I wouldn't be fitting it.
    Is the vinyl rolled face in (i.e. rerolled) for a period before fitting, is it allowed to acclimatize to the room.

    Has the vinyl when fitted be allowed to get wet/damp.

    Off course extreme heat will effect it it is after all a plastic, tell your shop it must be faulty and get them to get of their backsides and give their "expert opinions" or Hassel the rep and get him to give you a definitive answer pref in writing, as the manufacturers are always changing the compounds in the backing but don't update instrutions
     
  3. nevertrever2

    nevertrever2 Well-Known Member

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    When I worked on site doing Ben Bailey, David Wilson homes we were fitting vinyl cold all the time, we just cut it short everywhere and the site labourer siliconed up when the house was due to be signed over, didn't have any problems and the firm I subbied to had a 2 year warranty on fitting in the contract, we only had to go back to the usual ripped vinyl from customers moving white goods etc.
    We never glued down domestic vinyl, imagine getting it back up it'd be a nightmare.
     
  4. neilwiz3

    neilwiz3 Well-Known Member

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    Tbh cutting a little short and siliconeing some of my customers would hit the roof, alot of customers dont like silicone but some do !
    Also £15 i would be telling them to stick it, fuel & blades your left with a tenner,

    I have had the same problem as you b4 on new builds prolly caused by slight movement in the house whilst its settling, since my last bump 12 months or so ago i have bin fully sticking with tackyfier and not had a problem, on the normal instilations i do same as you d/s/t one on length and one wall on width.
     
  5. High 5

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    Maybe try a spray adhesive under the middle of the vinyl?
    Some of the domestic vinyls are getting very soft and flexible especially with this heat!
     
  6. merit

    merit Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree with you mate, I've never had a call back on a cushion floor. I can't stand it who people stick them down. ****s up the floor underneath and turns the vinyl a weird colour
     
  7. Spacey

    Spacey Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I solved the the problem with cushion a while back now...


    Don't sell it
     
  8. g4l

    g4l Well-Known Member

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    They do that so the house can be pressure tested before it's handed over. Kinda disheartening when you've scribed in Amtico dead flush all downstairs and then they cover it with a thick silicone bead.
     
  9. mjfl

    mjfl Well-Known Member

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    At least it went on after and not before...
     
  10. nevertrever2

    nevertrever2 Well-Known Member

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    They used to silicone ours before we fit the carpet, it used to **** me right off first thing in a morning knowing you've got 130 m2 carpet 20 m2 vinyl 16 winders 2 sets of stairs all to ulay and grip and then Hoover up and take away the waste and all to be done in the day by 2 of us :mad: Don't know how I did it for so long or how we did it especially for £2.25m2 must be out of my mind glad I don't do them any more I've take it over 2 days with 2 of us now and just have steady money coming in.
     
  11. nevertrever2

    nevertrever2 Well-Known Member

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    You bet me to it :)
     
  12. Rugmunching

    Rugmunching Well-Known Member

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    Ive had a bash at that before with an old mate of mine, felt bloody awful after few days, drained and grafting for ****e and always wanted loads of beer at the end of it! Trad makes me soooooo thristy
     
  13. Mickey

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    I know exactly what you mean sounds like I did exactly the same work day in day out for 9months awhile back except £1.75m2 :( terrible! I'm glad them days are over !
     
  14. Mickey

    Mickey Active Member

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    We never hoovered though
     

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